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	<title>Comments on: Open hands and open heart</title>
	<link>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/</link>
	<description>in the garden, in the kitchen and on the page</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 07:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-63061</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-63061</guid>
		<description>with regards to the parts of this post about tyler, i offer the following thoughts respectfully, knowing that i am not privy to the whole story. moreover, and most importantly, i admire how much time and care you put into your family relationships. 

with that said, you mention he may think to himself "why bother? it's never good enough." the thing is, do you think it is possible that in trying to undo the earlier influences you feel you may have had on him, you may still be implying the same thing: that what he is currently interested in  (entertainment/games) is not "good enough", and that "meaningful work" with its definition specific to you, is something you need to "show" him? this could easily make him feel "not good enough" or somehow deficient. 

also, maybe you are trying too hard to talk to him, when instead a.) showing him by your actions what matters can be far more influential on a child than talking and b.) he's good enough as he is and needs you to really demonstrate that you respect &#38; value his interests as much as you want him to see the value in yours. maybe he'd talk to you about the early years...and what he noticed and felt...(again, this may already happen between him and you--it simply might not have been the focus of your blog post, which emphasized more talking than listening). moreover, as a teenager, he just may be pretty silent when you talk. :)

lastly, don't look at the work ethics of other people's children. often they are thus because of unremitting pressure by those parents to have their children turn out a certain way. so the children have a seemingly great work ethic, but no childhood, and no personality blooming under the guidance of a gentler hand. they turn out to be copies of their parents because they have no other choice. and, in terms of tyler's particular work ethic--he just may not have found the thing that inspires him. you've found it in gardening, and cooking...but simply because he doesn't join in doesn't mean he has no work ethic. obviously, kids should have some responsibility growing up, but his lack of enthusiasm does not, to me at least, indicate a lack of a work ethic. 

thank you for sharing your life and family stories with us. they are always so good to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with regards to the parts of this post about tyler, i offer the following thoughts respectfully, knowing that i am not privy to the whole story. moreover, and most importantly, i admire how much time and care you put into your family relationships. </p>
<p>with that said, you mention he may think to himself &#8220;why bother? it&#8217;s never good enough.&#8221; the thing is, do you think it is possible that in trying to undo the earlier influences you feel you may have had on him, you may still be implying the same thing: that what he is currently interested in  (entertainment/games) is not &#8220;good enough&#8221;, and that &#8220;meaningful work&#8221; with its definition specific to you, is something you need to &#8220;show&#8221; him? this could easily make him feel &#8220;not good enough&#8221; or somehow deficient. </p>
<p>also, maybe you are trying too hard to talk to him, when instead a.) showing him by your actions what matters can be far more influential on a child than talking and b.) he&#8217;s good enough as he is and needs you to really demonstrate that you respect &amp; value his interests as much as you want him to see the value in yours. maybe he&#8217;d talk to you about the early years&#8230;and what he noticed and felt&#8230;(again, this may already happen between him and you&#8211;it simply might not have been the focus of your blog post, which emphasized more talking than listening). moreover, as a teenager, he just may be pretty silent when you talk. <img src='http://herablehands.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>lastly, don&#8217;t look at the work ethics of other people&#8217;s children. often they are thus because of unremitting pressure by those parents to have their children turn out a certain way. so the children have a seemingly great work ethic, but no childhood, and no personality blooming under the guidance of a gentler hand. they turn out to be copies of their parents because they have no other choice. and, in terms of tyler&#8217;s particular work ethic&#8211;he just may not have found the thing that inspires him. you&#8217;ve found it in gardening, and cooking&#8230;but simply because he doesn&#8217;t join in doesn&#8217;t mean he has no work ethic. obviously, kids should have some responsibility growing up, but his lack of enthusiasm does not, to me at least, indicate a lack of a work ethic. </p>
<p>thank you for sharing your life and family stories with us. they are always so good to read.</p>
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		<title>By: kristen</title>
		<link>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-63043</link>
		<dc:creator>kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-63043</guid>
		<description>I too have a hard time with help in the kitchen.  I love the idea of helpers but don't always factor in the extra time so I sigh heavily or say "no" when I am in a rush to get things on the table.  Otherwise as long as I think ahead it is doable, until the arguing over who gets to do what starts or the mess increases before my eyes.  So it is sometimes really hard to include kids in the kitchen but I love the idea of it and think it is a great , me yelling at kids time, oops I mean bonding time as well as a chance for the kids to feel needed and empowered.  And unfortunately more often than not it is another activity for Mom to lead at a time of day when I am usually in a rush.  But still if I can let go of all of that-it is a great chance to spend some time sharing something that is taken for granted.  Sorry so long!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have a hard time with help in the kitchen.  I love the idea of helpers but don&#8217;t always factor in the extra time so I sigh heavily or say &#8220;no&#8221; when I am in a rush to get things on the table.  Otherwise as long as I think ahead it is doable, until the arguing over who gets to do what starts or the mess increases before my eyes.  So it is sometimes really hard to include kids in the kitchen but I love the idea of it and think it is a great , me yelling at kids time, oops I mean bonding time as well as a chance for the kids to feel needed and empowered.  And unfortunately more often than not it is another activity for Mom to lead at a time of day when I am usually in a rush.  But still if I can let go of all of that-it is a great chance to spend some time sharing something that is taken for granted.  Sorry so long!!</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-62992</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-62992</guid>
		<description>Well, have to say I never got my kids to help in the kitchen.  Now that they're on they're own my daughter likes to cook for company, my son not at all.  They're big on take-out but maybe that'll change when they settle down.  I still shoo everyone out of the kitchen when I'm cooking.  Kind of like to be in the zone and fly around the kitchen without bumping into people.  But I don't do dishes!  Everyone else has to do those!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, have to say I never got my kids to help in the kitchen.  Now that they&#8217;re on they&#8217;re own my daughter likes to cook for company, my son not at all.  They&#8217;re big on take-out but maybe that&#8217;ll change when they settle down.  I still shoo everyone out of the kitchen when I&#8217;m cooking.  Kind of like to be in the zone and fly around the kitchen without bumping into people.  But I don&#8217;t do dishes!  Everyone else has to do those!!</p>
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		<title>By: Razor Family Farms</title>
		<link>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-62976</link>
		<dc:creator>Razor Family Farms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-62976</guid>
		<description>What an honest and refreshing post!  I used to hate to have people in my kitchen while I cooked.  They seemed to always be blocking the drawer I needed to open or in my path as I carried something hot.  Now I relish the chance to have someone share my kitchen with me.  I find that I am not distracted or nervous having them there.  I simply ask them to fish out the pastry blender or whatever is in the drawer they are blocking.  What caused the change of heart?  I discovered that I was lonely in my kitchen.  I made peace with my exacting personality and learned to relax.

Life has been much better since then.  I can really enjoy having guests and not feel so "only" during meal prep.  My husband actually comes into the kitchen to hang out with me now.  I had no idea that the reason my kitchen was so unfriendly and stressful was me.  No longer!  

Blessings!

Lacy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an honest and refreshing post!  I used to hate to have people in my kitchen while I cooked.  They seemed to always be blocking the drawer I needed to open or in my path as I carried something hot.  Now I relish the chance to have someone share my kitchen with me.  I find that I am not distracted or nervous having them there.  I simply ask them to fish out the pastry blender or whatever is in the drawer they are blocking.  What caused the change of heart?  I discovered that I was lonely in my kitchen.  I made peace with my exacting personality and learned to relax.</p>
<p>Life has been much better since then.  I can really enjoy having guests and not feel so &#8220;only&#8221; during meal prep.  My husband actually comes into the kitchen to hang out with me now.  I had no idea that the reason my kitchen was so unfriendly and stressful was me.  No longer!  </p>
<p>Blessings!</p>
<p>Lacy</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Bond</title>
		<link>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-62940</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-62940</guid>
		<description>My philosophy is the same as yours -- a job worth doing is worth doing well.  You'd be surprised just how much our children absorb when you least think they're getting it. :)  Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My philosophy is the same as yours &#8212; a job worth doing is worth doing well.  You&#8217;d be surprised just how much our children absorb when you least think they&#8217;re getting it. <img src='http://herablehands.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Verity</title>
		<link>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-62937</link>
		<dc:creator>Verity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-62937</guid>
		<description>Thank you!  Your post was so insightful and I will try to keep in mind what you have said as I raise my little boy.  Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!  Your post was so insightful and I will try to keep in mind what you have said as I raise my little boy.  Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer (Baklava Queen)</title>
		<link>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-62935</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer (Baklava Queen)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://herablehands.com/2008/04/14/open-hands-and-open-heart/#comment-62935</guid>
		<description>Gosh, thanks, Kelly!  It's been magic getting to know you as a "neighbor," too!  I'm glad I'm not the only one struggling to overcome that "I run the kitchen" mentality, though mine has been more a case of learning how to welcome in others who want to learn without chasing after them with a dishcloth or ripping the spoon out of their hands, saying, "No, THIS way!"  :-)  It's so much richer having company in the kitchen... I'm glad Lila loves to help, and I suspect that Ty may be absorbing more than you think.  Just keep being the mother/cook/etc. you want to be, keep finding the joy in your work, and he'll get it.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, thanks, Kelly!  It&#8217;s been magic getting to know you as a &#8220;neighbor,&#8221; too!  I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not the only one struggling to overcome that &#8220;I run the kitchen&#8221; mentality, though mine has been more a case of learning how to welcome in others who want to learn without chasing after them with a dishcloth or ripping the spoon out of their hands, saying, &#8220;No, THIS way!&#8221;  <img src='http://herablehands.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  It&#8217;s so much richer having company in the kitchen&#8230; I&#8217;m glad Lila loves to help, and I suspect that Ty may be absorbing more than you think.  Just keep being the mother/cook/etc. you want to be, keep finding the joy in your work, and he&#8217;ll get it.  <img src='http://herablehands.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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